View the full video of the Senate Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs hearing on virtual currencies here.

It was refreshing to see a Senate hearing kick off half an hour early for a change, and in a place with far more sitting room than room 538 of the Dirksen Senate Office Building. Just before 15:00 ET, while aides were still preparing that room for the two-hour session, Senator Jerry Moran posted a question on reddit:

“I’m one of the Senators attending today’s US Senate Banking Committee hearing related to bitcoin. What would you like me to know?”

He wanted wider input on what senators would be discussing yesterday afternoon: the promises and threats of virtual currencies, and how the banking system could engage them.

While academics, regulators, and banking industry representatives gave their views to a panel of Senators, redditors responded. The difference in opinion and tone was obvious. Most of the discussion in the hearing (other than BitPay CEO Tony Gallippi’s comments) focused on the risks around bitcoin and how to best regulate it to mitigate those risks. But like Gallippi’s a lot of the reddit feedback centred on the need to let it breathe.

“The situation for entrepreneurs looking to build startups around bitcoin seems pretty bleak here in the US,” said one reddit commenter, a developer in San Francisco who regularly attends bitcoin meetups. “It seems like the most rational decision if you want to build a business is to decide that you’re going to have to leave the US to do so.”

There’s just one problem, said Dax Hansen, an attorney at
 Perkins Coie LLP, who has become a specialist in virtual currency law: “It’s not a very rational discussion right now.”

An irrational discussion

Many bitcoin companies are prepared, with good answers, says Hansen. If the banks would listen, they have compelling stories to tell. But many banks aren’t listening. “It’s not even the regulatory issue that’s the problem. It’s the banking relationships that are the problem,” he explained.

Yesterday’s hearing may not have done much to encourage bitcoin advocates. The person who advocated for more regulation of bitcoin, and who seemed the most cautious about virtual currency, was Paul Smocer. He is the president of BITS, the technology policy division of The Financial Services Roundtable – an industry body set up by the financial services industry to explore approaches to new technologies.

Smocer didn’t respond to CoinDesk’s requests for comment, but his testimony yesterday called for more regulation, rather than less.

He praised Gallippi in the hearing’s Q&A session for putting the necessary controls in place to know who his clients were and prevent illicit transactions. But he qualified his statement:

“I would question if that is applicable across the industry, and whether there are things we can make sure to ensure that the kinds of litigations and controls that he has put in place are applicable to all.”

Earlier, he had called for more regulation to “legitimize” the virtual currency industry, arguing that the FinCEN guidance in March wasn’t enough.

FinCEN’s guidelines explain what types of virtual currency business fall under the auspices of the Bank Secrecy Act guidelines, and refer to well-established definitions of money transmission businesses. So what’s making banks nervous?

Gallippi’s BitPay co-founder, CTO Stephen Pair, argued that more clarity is needed. “It is precisely the lack of clarity around regulations that is causing banks to take a very cautious approach to bitcoin,” he says. “There are many banks that want to make use of the Bitcoin technology but they are unsure how regulators will react.”

State regulation is a hurdle

State-level regulation is also a bone of contention. David Cotney, Commissioner of Banks for the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, is also vice-chair at the Conference of State Bank Supervisors (CSBS), which gathers together all of the state banking regulators in the US. He reeled off a list of initiatives and tools that the CSBS is using to try and make the state-level MSB licensing process easier.

The Money Transmitter Regulators Association (MTRA), a non-profit organisation that helps regulate the money transmission business in the US, created a Money Transmitter Regulators Cooperative Agreement in 2002, and followed it up with the MTRA Examination Protocol (MTRA Protocol) in 2010, he said. That gives companies an easier time when applying for state licenses by co-ordinating joint reviews. There’s a task force, too, and a database, that lets the public see how those licenses are going.

But none of that seems to be helping bitcoin companies who want to operate in multiple states. Once they conquer California, Texas, and New York, they still have 75% of the US population to go, and each one has a different set of rules, standards, and politics to navigate. Each one will take up to two years to complete. No wonder Circle Internet Financial earmarked $2m of its $9m in funding to tackle it.

The feds could help, if they wanted to, said Jon Matonis, executive director of the Bitcoin Foundation and a contributing editor at CoinDesk. He argued:

“It’s not going to be an easy and a short process, but they could have federal laws that would pre-empt the state laws.

There could be court rulings and supreme court rulings that would override some issues of the states, and they could have a unified approach on it if they wanted to.”

In any case, he says, perhaps it shouldn’t be an MSB issue at all.

But there is opposition to unification. Sarah Jane Hughes, university scholar and fellow in commercial law at the Indiana University Maurer School of Law, thinks that virtual currencies should be treated just the same as any other financial instrument when it comes to regulation, however. She gave four recommendations in her testimony, and one of them included not creating a unified state/federal regulation for them, or to give them special regulatory treatment to foster innovation.

Persuading the banks

Aside from the challenge of state-level regulation, and the danger of more regulation for a volatile currency, there’s the problem of making it worth the banks’ while in the face of the regulatory uncertainty.

“The banks need a business case, honestly. They need to know that they’re going to make some money off of this, and right now it seems probably like a nascent industry,” argued Hansen.

The problem for banks is that bitcoin may be flirting with a $600 valuation, but they’re not going to see much of it, at least in the short term, he suggests, even if they open up to bitcoin companies. “How do the banks make money there?”

Banks normally earn money from deposits, but they’re not well equipped to deal with virtual currency transactions. They live in the world of credit cards and ACH, where fees are deliciously high, but in the bitcoin world, low fees are a characteristic of the system.

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If the carrot won’t work, then how about the stick? “More impetus could come from large merchants asking their banks to support them doing business in bitcoin,” Dax said. BitPay now has 12,000 merchants and just launched a directory of them – but banks either need a few big players to push for bitcoin, or an en masse request from lots of smaller companies – before they’ll take notice.

Assuming that all of this can be solved, banks will need to make it straightforward for bitcoin-based businesses to sign up for accounts. In his Q&A during Monday’s Homeland Security and Government Oversight hearing on virtual currency, Bitcoin Foundation general counsel Patrick Murck called for an “onboarding” process.

“There is currently a chill in the banking industry that is preventing businesses from getting even to simple checking accounts,” Murck said on Monday. “There are stories that if you have bitcoin in your name or documentation, your application goes in the circular file.”

A checklist of due diligence measures would help here, says Hansen. “There are many bitcoin companies ready and waiting.”

At last one virtual currency company is anxiously waiting to align itself with banks and financial institutions. The Ripple Foundation, whose CEO Chris Larsen was originally scheduled to testify at the hearings, takes pains to outline its readiness.

A statement from the company said:

“Ripple in particular is well-suited to today’s regulations because many of the gateways on our systems will likely be banks and other financial institutions that already work within this set of regulations.”

But Ripple’s absence left Gallippi as the only person actually operating a virtual currency business to testify at the hearing. He argued against any further regulation of bitcoin.

“Guidance from the IRS, Department of Treasury, Department of Justice, and SEC has all established that bitcoins are legal, and that those dealing with them must simply follow existing tax laws and anti-money laundering regulations,” he said.

But more regulation could be on the horizon. Both Hughes and Mercedes Kelley Tunstall, partner and practice leader for the Privacy and Data Security Group at Ballard Spahr LLP, testified yesterday that virtual currencies face volatility issues. Bitcoin fails to track other currencies, said Hughes, raising the question of securities or commodities regulation for it.

Catch-22

Part of the reason that the currency is so volatile is because of a lack of liquidity. Volatility is a product of thin markets, and adding more liquidity would help to regulate prices. Regulatory uncertainty and conservative banks are precisely what are preventing US exchanges from increasing that liquidity by participating fully in the virtual currency markets.

“The number one exchange for bitcoin in the world is in China. The number two exchange is in Japan. Numbers three, four, and five are in Europe. Number six is in Canada. America is not a leader right now in liquidity in the exchange of bitcoin,” said Gallippi.

So, what is needed? A light-handed approach is crucial, said Stan Stalnaker, founding member of the Digital Asset Transfer Authority (DATA). “This will allow the digital asset ecosystem to develop to its full potential,” he said. “An enormous amount of wealth creation is possible, along with the reduction of fraud and money-laundering through digital identification related to these assets.”

It is unclear how much legislative action will come from this process, if any, but one thing is certain: senators were given a clear message from the banking industry yesterday that they were skeptical about bitcoin. It was not the dialogue that many on reddit may have hoped for.

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